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Старый 08.01.2018, 23:13   #21
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56% of factions are civilized.

Civilized factions have won 81% of CoNs


excluding the balance mod CoN, Civs have won 13/15 CoN
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Старый 08.01.2018, 23:20   #22
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In these games, sele and pontus had a record of 49-27 (64.5 %) with two finals appearances



In these games, sele and pontus had a record of 49-27 (64.5 %) with two finals appearances

Gaul and Germania had a dismal record of 40-53 for a win % of 43 with no finals appearances.
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Старый 08.01.2018, 23:37   #23
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Luke, seems like my english is really bad cuz you don't get the meaning of my words. The point of my post was how can you know how to balance matchups when you can't match your words with the results? Not to insult, but to remind. And when I said "stupid idiots" I wasn't mad or emotional. I think you two are stupid idiots. Just it.

Are barbarians really that bad or just someone doesn't know how to play with them? That's the question. The civil factions have more wins than barbarians because players most of time play with them. And then if they get barb faction on CoN they can't show well result. That's all about practice.

More than this, last 2 CoNs I have played I reached the final with barbarian factions. So, what's the problem?

Any time you feel like my english is extrimely bad and the meaning of my words eludes from you, you can start talking in russian or belorusian with me. Also we can try japanese, I know a little. So feel free to do so.
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Старый 09.01.2018, 00:43   #24
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. Also we can try japanese, I know a little. So feel free to do so.
That moment when u realize madgeh watched enough hentai to become fluent in japanese
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Старый 09.01.2018, 00:54   #25
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Luke, seems like my english is really bad cuz you don't get the meaning of my words. The point of my post was how can you know how to balance matchups when you can't match your words with the results? Not to insult, but to remind. And when I said "stupid idiots" I wasn't mad or emotional. I think you two are stupid idiots. Just it.
Interesting. How can someone balance a matchup like carthage-germania when they lost with carthage in a tourney 15-15? If I am not good how did I manage to eliminate you in tourneys? When I remind you that you a sarcastic sniveling close-minded cunt, I say this in the most dispassionate way.

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Are barbarians really that bad or just someone doesn't know how to play with them? That's the question. The civil factions have more wins than barbarians because players most of time play with them. And then if they get barb faction on CoN they can't show well result. That's all about practice.
Nope, they're just bad, Madgeh. This is why I was able to beat you with sele when we tested it last CoN. It has nothing to do with practice, they are simply inferior.


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More than this, last 2 CoNs I have played I reached the final with barbarian factions. So, what's the problem?
You did so with some well-balanced barbarians, scythia and spain are amongst the best barbs, chiefly because they can afford cheap missiles. Remind me why though did u lose to Kleo? I think we all know you are a much more experienced cwb player than him.

Its obviously POSSIBLE to win with a disadvantage, but it is simply less PROBABLE. What kind of dumb argument can you be making here?


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Any time you feel like my english is extrimely bad and the meaning of my words eludes from you, you can start talking in russian or belorusian with me. Also we can try japanese, I know a little. So feel free to do so.
Its not that your english is bad (I mean, it is...), but more that your english became incomprehensible as soon as you got mad, which is hillarious.
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Старый 09.01.2018, 01:10   #26
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Is this everything you can say?)

I don't want to answer everything, just to this one:

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If I am not good how did I manage to eliminate you in tourneys?
Consider it as a lesson from a guy who reached CoN final in 50% of played CoNs. When I sign up to a tournament, from the very begining I start thinking about how to reach the final and win the tournament, not how to win against Luke. You can win against me in a tournament, but it's useless if you lost the tournament.

Btw I must say sorry, I was thinking about it for a minute and I can't think about you, Luke, as of stupid idiot as I wrote above. You are just too emotional young guy with extrimely big ego who wants to get recognition from others. There is nothing bad, actually. Just a bit annoying personality.
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Старый 09.01.2018, 02:39   #27
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Is this everything you can say?)
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Consider it as a lesson from a guy who reached CoN final in 50% of played CoNs. When I sign up to a tournament, from the very begining I start thinking about how to reach the final and win the tournament, not how to win against Luke. You can win against me in a tournament, but it's useless if you lost the tournament.
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Btw I must say sorry, I was thinking about it for a minute and I can't think about you, Luke, as of stupid idiot as I wrote above. You are just too emotional young guy with extrimely big ego who wants to get recognition from others. There is nothing bad, actually. Just a bit annoying personality.
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Старый 09.01.2018, 04:10   #28
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I propose we alter cwb, it benefits civilized factions/chariot factions way to much. Simply changing money will never be equitable really. If you put cav max of 5-6 for civilized factions vs barb factions. It will help barb factions a lot, and lead to more dynamic games. In some cases, you could even expand cavalry maxes for barbarian factions so that they can be effective with their weaker cavalry. Obviously, you would still need to change the money, but I think it would be worth looking into.
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It would be much easier to balance using terminator's idea. This is how CoN was run in the past. Unfortunately, that will never happen.

It can be balanced using cwb. It is just a bit more difficult.
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more salt plz. ^_^

you can mix that 2 table in one, just put average values in the result table cells. :]


btw what does 2/2fx means in thrace/carthage cell?
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I believe spam is less damage rather than open insulting, also in spam posts, mixed with deliberate trolling and lying. Thats exactly what Madgeh is doing every time. This is how he communicate every time. Exactly the thing why I and many others asked to transfer CoN from Rusleague, here. He is admin on Rusleague, abusing that power every time. And all the players who supports Rusleague, actually support Madgeh, who wants nothing but to troll all the time.

Who ever said that your table was great? You mean that is said by you and those similar to you?
You mean the table which we `tested together`, where i SMASHED you in like 7-8 critical matchups, SEVERAL times in each, and you changed nothing. Not like its some real parameter, since I smash you almost every time we play.
You mean the table on which I complained even before it started about Parthia-Brits matchup, where you and your best buddy ARAGON, -(Again I repeat ARAGON. I believe admins of this sight, dont like him, yea(lol?)?) -laughed to me, just to see two of you complaining about the same, when one HoS-ian had to play that matchup against one RV. Remember that?
Here comes major proof. Lukes table is the only one ever almost fully tested. Madgehs one was created from his head(lmao?). On this one matter as for any other, Madgeh and similar to him speaking about things created only in their heads, w/o any fact or testing. They are ready do change their mind, only and only when income of that change affecting themselves. Remember the semifinal of last CoN?
In the end Luke said he ll gladly test any matchup with you. So play with him and prove to be right.
I wont spam examples further.

Also, Madgeh speaking about someones skill? Lmao? I mean are you for real? Why dont you tell to the crowd whats our mutual score?
Can you support your claim that you have more trophies than Luke? As for me, I am quite sure, you wont even try, cause you d had to bring so big lie as a `proof` to be more awarded player than me.

I ll end here. Just ignore him guys. The only thing he wants is as he always do-to ruin things and to win by some sort of cheating. Also, this is proven HoS tactic making of fun(its their definition of fun, not mine), where they repeat the situations and things from previous tourneys, making same argues all over again.
So as I ve said, Luke and others, just ignore him.
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Старый 09.01.2018, 06:56   #32
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I dont think madgeh cares that much
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Старый 09.01.2018, 10:37   #33
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Eart, you have a negative score among almost everyone of any stature in standard games, you are basically a 3rd rate, 3rd world, short bus equivalent to Nidintu. Stop bragging when you have nothing to back it up except 'RV trophies.
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Madgeh, Earth, Luke
Stop trying to prick each other! The tournament did not even begin, and you are already trying to troll and provoke each other. This is a topic for discussion of the table, and not for spam and provocation. This is not Rusleague, and the violation of CC rules is unacceptable. Consider my words a warning to all of you. From now on, there should be only civilized discussions without attacks on anyone and provocations
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Table is in the works. Give me a moment please I'm in finals.
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dante my man u have our tables switched up
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Старый 12.01.2018, 20:47   #38
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Okay! Phase 1 of table changes has arrived. If anyone has some questions or concerns, please let me know.

Sorry for the helter-skelter format, im rly busy


Step 1. Medium Char nerf.

Sele vs Numidia ====> Sele reduced to 1c
Sele vs Spain ====> Sele lose 0,5k
Parf v Pont===> Pont reduced to 1 char vs Parf, Parf go to 15,5k, pont lose 0,5k
Parf vs Sele ====> Parthia gain .7k
Pontus vs Dacia ===>Pont lose 1,2k, Dacia gain 0,5k
Pont lose 0,3k vs Numidia
Pont vs Spain Pont lose 1c, spain gain 0,5k

Step 2. Problematic Gaul matches

Sele vs Gaul ===> Sele reduced by 2k
Gaul vs Parthia and Armenia ====> Gaul increase by 0,5k
Carthage vs Gaul =====> Infantry rule removed and Carth reduced to 11k, Gaul gain 0,5k
Macedon vs Gaul ====> Macedon reduced to 10,5k, Gaul gains 0,3k
Gaul vs Rome ====> Rome reduced to 10,5k , gaul reduced to 17k
Thrace vs Gaul =====> Now simply 14,5 thrace vs 17,5 gaul
Pontus vs Gaul ======> Pontus reduced to 1c

Step 3. Tiny Carth nerf

Carth reduced to 13k vs Germania remove infantry rule
Carth vs Thrace ====> Thrace 12,7 vs Carth 11
Carth reduced to 11,5k vs Numidia, Numidia reduce to 15k.
Carth lose 200 vs greece
Dacia gain 1k vs Carth
Spain gain 1k vs Carth,


Step 4. Fix typos

Macedon vs Numidia is not 12k vs 15k, its 11k vs 15,5k
Spain vs macedon I think should be 15k vs 11k


Step 5. Minuscule mace nerf

-0.5 vs dacia
both pont and mace lose 0,5k in their match
Mace vs thrace changed to 12,5k vs 10,5k no inf rule

Step 6. Change to arm/parth vs num

they lose 0,5k vs num

Step 7. Rome nerf

Rome vs Dacia is now

15,5 vs 10,5k

Spain vs Rome is now

15,5 vs 11,5k
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great work so far @luke,

could i request you take another look at gaul vs greece though. seeing that gaul can take 6 nobles 6 chosen sword and something like 4 foresters pretty easilly with that money it seems very though for greece to beat and basically forces it to always play for a box in this matchup
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Ill be sure to take a look at it.
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